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 Posted: Thu Jan 18th, 2007 08:33 am
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Hi there guys.

As I have recently been opted in as Producer for our next play, I had to telephone one of the members of our group who does not frequent meetings regularly, just to make sure he was going to do the sound/lighting as usual.

I confused him some what, when I explained I am the producer.  He said that there is no such thing as a director in theatre, only producers.  That the term "Director" only applies to film? So, when I explained I will not be dealing with the acting side of things, only everything else, this was where the confusion ensued.

We've *always* called the person dealing with the acting side of things as "our Director".

Who is correct?

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 Posted: Thu Jan 18th, 2007 10:35 am
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That’s interesting… I’ve never heard anyone say that it’s just a film term.

I’ve met a number of professionals in the theatre that call themselves ‘Directors’ and I happen to believe them.

Plus when I’ve written contracts for performances of my plays, I’ve always made mention of directors – mainly because it is included in the templates available from The Writers’ Guild of Great Britain.

My take… Your lighting bloke is mistaken.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 18th, 2007 12:47 pm
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You can arguably put on a play without a Producer - but try doing same without a Director! Sparkies eh...

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 Posted: Thu Jan 18th, 2007 05:12 pm
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Well, guys - I did tend to think he was talking through his proverbial!  I will keep it to myself, but am grateful for the confirmation!

Thank you!  :)

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Hi, Tracy!  (Hi, Everyone!)

This is actually a more interesting question than it seems on the surface.  Your sound and lighting person is living in the 19th century.  At that time, directors in the modern sense didn't yet exist, and people who did more or less what a director now does were often called "producers".  And indeed it was, more often than not, the person who did what a modern "producer" does who also sort of (and "sort of" is very much the way to put it!) directed the play.  This person was also frequently the star.  So if we assumed that the 20th century had not yet happened, your sound and lighting person would be correct.

Of course, in the 19th century, there were no sound or lighting people.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 21st, 2007 08:29 pm
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I don't understand how you can confuse him if you introduced yourself as the producer.

He's used to dealing with producers. You are a producer. End of story.

How can you confuse him if he was expecting to deal wth a producer and you introduced yourself as a producer?

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 Posted: Mon Jan 22nd, 2007 11:57 pm
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LOL ...... bad wording perhaps??  

All I said to him was.. that I am producing the next play.  He assumed from that, that I was involved with the actors and the play/script itself.  I said no, I'm only producing the play, not directing it and thats when I got the spiel about no such thing as a *director* in stage plays, only in the movies. So.. as *producer*  I will  be involved with the actors and the play and script. He was quite insistent. 

But everyone here seems to think he lives in the past.

I've decided that I will NOT be reiterating his assumptions to other members of the group - it will either be a case of vacant stares or a full blown debate - dont think I want either!!  But it will be interesting if he decides to bring it up himself hee hee

Thanks peeps! :)))

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 Posted: Mon Jan 22nd, 2007 11:59 pm
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SpencePorter wrote: Hi, Tracy!  (Hi, Everyone!)

This is actually a more interesting question than it seems on the surface.  Your sound and lighting person is living in the 19th century.  At that time, directors in the modern sense didn't yet exist, and people who did more or less what a director now does were often called "producers".  And indeed it was, more often than not, the person who did what a modern "producer" does who also sort of (and "sort of" is very much the way to put it!) directed the play.  This person was also frequently the star.  So if we assumed that the 20th century had not yet happened, your sound and lighting person would be correct.

Of course, in the 19th century, there were no sound or lighting people.

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Funnily enough he did mention the movie "The Producers" - what era was that depicted??!!!   :))

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 Posted: Tue Jan 23rd, 2007 03:41 am
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In The Producers, one of the things the "producers" do is--they hire a director!

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 Posted: Tue Jan 23rd, 2007 08:05 am
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Hi again Spence :)

I think I am well and truly armed to correct him, should he have the tenacity to make comment at the next meeting.

All the best,

Tracy.

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Whoever you are talking to knows very little about theatre.  The "Director" in theatre dates back hundreds of years before film existed.  Buy them a history book.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2007 08:44 am
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Hi Brandon,

I am pretty well convinced, from the comments made here, that our sound and light man was definitely talking through his proverbial!!

He hasnt turned up at any of our meetings yet, so am well armed to correct him, once he turns up and dares to make comment :)

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